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Five questions that Baptists and Evangelicals should ask themselves:

1. Does the Bible state that a sinner is capable of choosing righteousness/choosing God?

The Bible states that the sinner must believe and repent, but are these actions initiated and performed by man of his own intellectual abilities, or are faith, belief, and repentance a part of the entire "package" of salvation? Are faith, belief, and repentance part of the "free gift"? Does God give you faith, belief and repentance at the moment he "quickens" you, or does he require you to make a decision that you want them first, and only then does he give them to you.

2. Is there any passage of Scripture that describes salvation in the Baptist/evangelical terms of: "Accept Christ into your heart", "Make a decision for Christ", "Pray to God and ask him to forgive you of your sins, come into your heart, and be your Lord and Savior (the Sinner's Prayer)". Is it possible that being "born again" is something that God does at a time of his choosing, and not something that man decides to do at a time of his choosing? Is man an active participant in his salvation in that he cooperates with God in a decision to believe, or is man a passive participant in his salvation; God does ALL the work?

3. Is the Bible a static collection of words or do the Words of God have real power, real supernatural power? How does the Bible describe the Word? Is it the meaning of the Word that has power or do the words themselves have supernatural power to "quicken" the souls of sinners, creating faith, belief and repentance?

4. Does preaching the Word save everyone who hears it, or only the "predestined", the "elect", the "called", the "appointed" will believe when they hear the Word?

5. WHEN does the Bible, if read in its simple, plain, literal rendering, say that sins are forgiven and washed away?

Gary
Luther, Baptists, and Evangelicals

http://www.lutherwasnotbornagain.com/2013/07/why-is-born-again-mentioned-only-three.html

gary

Does the Bible really say that the only way to be saved is by "accepting Jesus into your heart"? Where do Baptists and evangelicals find this concept in the Bible? Is "accepting Jesus" really the means by which God forgives sins and saves sinners? Did you know that this phrase is never used in the Scriptures? So why do these Christian denominations use this terminology? And why do Baptists and evangelicals have so many "problem" Bible passages that if read in their plain, simple rendering, contradict Baptist/evangelical doctrine?

Lutherans do not need to twist and contort themselves into pretzels to explain "problem Bible verses" that do not agree with our doctrine, as do the Baptists and evangelicals. If the Bible says, "He that believes on the Lord Jesus Christ will be saved", we believe it. Believing is all that is necessary for salvation. And when the Bible says, "Repent and be baptized for the forgiveness of sins" or “Baptism now saves us” we believe those passages literally too. God, in very simple, plain language says the he forgives sins and saves in Holy Baptism, so we believe him.

Baptists and evangelicals claim that infant baptism did not "appear" in the Church until the second or third century. They are wrong. Numerous historical documents demonstrate that infant baptism is of apostolic origin, as several early Church Fathers state in their writings and were willing to die for. If the "heresy" of infant baptism was contrary to apostolic teaching, and developed within the following 100-200 years after the last apostle died, where is evidence of the introduction of this "heresy" and the indignant outrage and uproar among the faithful "baptistic" believers? And… please don't tell us that the "Catholics" destroyed all such evidence in a wholesale Baptistic-document burning because there is no evidence to support this old wives' tale either.

Baptist-like believers did not exist during the time of the Apostles, during the Early Church, nor for the next 800-1500 years!

There is no evidence of a massive outcry against baptizing infants in the Early Church because no such "heresy" occurred. Infant baptism was taught by the Apostles. That is why there is ZERO evidence of a major controversy over baptizing the infants of believing parents in Christian or non-Christian historical documents from this time period. The practice of including infants and toddlers in “household conversions” continued uninterrupted from the Old Covenant into the New. This is why there is no explicit mention in the NT regarding infants being baptized…everyone in that era correctly assumed that infants are included in their parents’ conversion.

Baptist/evangelical doctrine is an invention of sixteenth and seventeenth century western Europeans. No Christian in the first 800-1,500 years of Christianity ever heard of such an outrageous false teaching as that of adult-only, symbolic-only baptism. No one!

When confronted with the overwhelming historical evidence that supports the orthodox Christian position on Baptismal Regeneration and Infant Baptism, most Baptists will fall back on their last line of defense: They will say, "For two thousand years, the Catholics have destroyed and covered up all evidence of these early Baptist-like believers who have existed since the Apostles. Catholics have even purposefully misinterpreted the Holy Bible in ALL translations, including the KJV and ESV, to hide the true (Baptist) doctrines that are so easily found in the original Greek Scriptures."

These are unfounded conspiracy theories dreamed up over the centuries to explain away the nagging problem with Baptist/evangelical theology: Why is there ZERO historical evidence that any early Christians believed in a Symbolic Baptism or that the only means of salvation is by an adult “decision for Christ”?

These unfounded "Catholic" conspiracy theories are sheer ignorance, my friends. Wake up out of the trance that those who taught you these false teachings have placed you under! The Baptist/evangelical doctrine of Symbolic Baptism is NOT Scriptural! It is an assumption based on a false premise that salvation occurs when a sinner chooses to seek righteousness/seek God, referred to in evangelical/Baptist theology as a "decision for Christ". God says in Romans chapter three that such a "decision" is impossible! Sinners do not choose God. God chooses sinners! That is why Baptists and evangelicals fail to understand how God can save the infants of believers in infant baptism. You demand that the infant make a decision just as you demand that an adult sinner make a decision. THAT is where you go off track! SINNERS CANNOT MAKE A DECISION FOR GOD, REGARDLESS OF THEIR AGE. God makes the decision for salvation, not the sinner.

There is not a single passage of Scripture that states that sinners can "accept/make a decision for Christ" or that Baptism is OUR public profession of faith. None.

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